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PA: Liquor Privatization Vote Postponed till Monday, Maybe Longer

Unions, special interests versus 70 percent of Pennsylvanians

HARRISBURG — Don't touch that bottle.

It belongs to Pennsylvania, at least for now.

Richard Granger, clad in a bright yellow shirt, is pleased. He stood alongside dozens of people Wednesday on the marble steps of the state Capitol, the most obvious sign of layers of effort that helped stop a vote to privatize Pennsylvania's state-owned liquor business.

Granger and his brightly-clad comrades are members of the United Food and Commercial Workers, the union that represents many of the nearly 5,000 workers in Pennsylvania’s liquor business.

The union led the opposition to the privatization plan pushed by House Majority Leader Mike Turzai, R-Allegheny, staging a sit-in at the Capitol and telling members to voice their opposition to local lawmakers.  Granger and others refused to claim victory on Wednesday, saying they would continue to vocally oppose the privatization plan until there was no chance for it to become law.

“It may be an anachronism, but it works for Pennsylvania,” Granger said of the state-owned and operated liquor store system.

It certainly works for the unions, though at one point on Monday night the idea seemed headed for the proverbial gutter.

But House Republicans cut off debate after 10 p.m. That came after several hours of talk without taking a vote on the proposal, which was in a proposed amendment offered by Turzai.

Promised votes Tuesday and Wednesday failed to materialize as the union sit-in continued and other unions urged its members to call lawmakers and urge opposition.

Turzai told reporters Wednesday the bill would remain on the House’s voting calendar for Monday — their next session day — but other Republicans said the number of votes for the measure had declined after behind-closed-door meetings  Tuesday and Wednesday.

The UFCW got plenty of help from other unions.

The Pennsylvania AFL-CIO, one of the largest labor unions in the state, among others, sent notices to members asking them to call lawmakers about the liquor privatization bill.

We need to make sure our representatives hear from as many people as possible about why this blatant giveaway from extreme politicians to their corporate donors is bad for Pennsylvania working families,” one statement from the union said.

Union groups have argued that more than 4,500 jobs will be lost if the state system is privatized, but Republicans have countered by arguing that the 1,600 private sector stores will create additional opportunities for jobs — including union jobs.

Steve Miskin, Turzai’s spokesman, downplayed the role of the unions in keeping the bill from getting the necessary votes.

“Truly this is not a union issue. It’s a consumer issue. Either you’re for Pennsylvania consumers and taxpayers or you are against them,” he said.

Other opposition to the plan came from the Pennsylvania Malt Beverage Distribution Association, which represents beer wholesalers and distributors.

In Turzai’s plan, beer distributors would have the first shot at buying one of the 1,600 new liquor licenses — finally allowing Pennsylvanians to purchase beer and liquor in the same location — but the association said it had other concerns.

Primarily, they are worried about other licenses being bought up by “big box” stores that represent competition in a previously closed marketplace.

Ultimately, this amendment is really intended to drive beer distributors out of the market,” the association warned in a memo to its members last month.

 Consumers, meanwhile, remain stuck with a system that is uniquely complicated in the United States.

Polls have consistently shown a majority of Pennsylvanians are in favor of privatizing the liquor system, but the state monopoly set up in the wake of Prohibition has remained stubborn despite numerous attempts to end it, including efforts by the past two Republican administrations in Harrisburg during the 1980s and 1990s.

 Jay Ostrich is communications director for the Commonwealth Foundation, a free market think tank here that has been pushing for the privatization plan. He said the failure to bring the issue to a vote was a sobering reminder of government’s inability to get out of its own way.

 “When broad-based bipartisan support from voters isn't enough to get the job done, it clearly suggests something is broken under the dome,” he said in an email.

 Gov. Tom Corbett has supported the privatization plan since he took office in 2011, and reportedly was helping drum up votes from both sides of the aisle this week.

 Publicly, however, he played off his role in the privatization battle.

 “Do I support privatization? Absolutely,” he told reporters Tuesday. “This is a good first step, let’s get this first step done.”

 Even if the vote had been taken this week — or is taken next week — Republican leadership in the state Senate has all but shut off the possibility of approving the bill before the end of the budget process this month.

 Senate President Joe Scarnati said this week that he supported the Turzai proposal, and looked forward to working on it “in the fall.”

Liberalism is a mental disorder June 18, 2012 at 04:58 pm
This will never happen. We need these union bums, making big money and big pensions to sell us a bottle of wine.
Liberalism is a mental disorder June 18, 2012 at 05:01 pm
Unions don't give a damn that this system costs PA taxpayers tens of millions. As with all public unions, it always about them and nobody else.
GROW A SET Republican lawmakers.
jana d June 18, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Unions protect its workers! PA gets over a half billion $ a year that goes into the state treasury, where the f*ck is Tom Corbett or Mike Turzai going to pull that out of? If these stores go public its only going to be more expensive for the consumer not less. Politicians don't give a shit about the tax payers, all they care about is there big fat cushy jobs and there their fat pensions. Seriously this has been around since probation why screw with something that has worked for all these years? did I mention PA gets a half billion a year in revenue? Just like the big bs about the PA casino's, they didn't lower property taxes, they lied!!!!!
sherry June 19, 2012 at 02:34 am
The state of Pennsylvania should not be in the business of selling liquor to its citizens.
A majority of states have figured this out, time for PA to do so as well. I love when I visit friends in ohio...walk into Walmart, grab my food and liquor that I want in one stop. Civilization at its finest. Time to get this moving! The jobs to sell liquor will still be around...just different owners than the state will be hiring.
louis kootsares June 19, 2012 at 12:20 pm
government for the people not for just the labor unions there are good arguements pro and con but the state should sell the stores off .and correct other things there are plenty
Brian R Gestl June 19, 2012 at 02:29 pm
If you kill the cow for a steak dinner Friday night, the milk will be gone forever !!! The liquor stores generate PROFIT for the state !!! Remember that when your taxes go up after pivitizing something that works.
louis kootsares June 19, 2012 at 02:54 pm
your argument is very true and besides that there are 5000 people who are making a living and also work by the high standards set by the lcb strong argument brian
moderate Republican June 19, 2012 at 06:41 pm
The only “asset” for "sale," is the monopoly itself (in other words, the “right” to sell wine and liquor). Only the highest bidders would have that right, using 1,050 “licenses” to be sold to current beer distributors, and hundreds more "licenses" to be “sold” at auction. True “privatization” (and free market) would simply broaden the rules on who can sell, without creating a new monopoly to replace the old monopoly. This particular example of so-called privatization is bunk.
louis kootsares June 19, 2012 at 06:56 pm
lets figure why does anyone want to sell the state stores? could it be that our politicians got a big campaign contribution to sell them? now that thought comes to mind they make money and maybe someone wants to buy a bunch so they can make money... just a thought
Tommy June 20, 2012 at 02:46 pm
Agree 100%! They need a like button on the Patch so that I don't have to post every time I agree with something!
Tommy June 20, 2012 at 02:51 pm
How is it that any of you think that the state will still not profit if liquor sales are privatized? Do you really believe that the state will not increase taxes on liquor? The result will be less red tape in liquor stores, increased competition, steady state revenue, and cost savings by the state. The fact that selling booz is a state pension funded union job is absurd. Let me guess, the quality of work at our "union shop" liquor stores is better than those at stores managed by private, non-union employees right? What a sham.
Tommy June 20, 2012 at 02:54 pm
Jana, do you drink? State liquor stores DON'T work. And casinos are privately owned and the state is still raking in the money. You don't need to pay some old crab $20/hour to sell liquor. The state will make their money, and save money in the end.
Carl W June 21, 2012 at 06:18 am
MANY of these "union bums" are U. S. Military veterans, "Incredibly Wise."
Carl W June 21, 2012 at 06:21 am
We did, Bush & Cheney : 'tax breaks for the rich," an illegal war, which Cheney made a fortune off of, and a near collapse of the entire U.S, and secondly world, economy. Want to go through that again?
Mark Redfox June 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm
What don't you people understand about 5000 thousand people state wide won't have a job if this is ever passed. You right wing idiots make me sick. You act like these people are second rate citizens because they belong to a union. They don't deserve to have a job or a retirement plan. What the hell is this country coming to? The republicans won't be happy until the middle class is completely wiped out.
Tommy June 23, 2012 at 12:12 am
Mark, why don't you set us straight genius? Why don't you explain to us how a retail employee, which normally averages $8.50/hour throughout the retail sector, deserves to make the salaries they make with full state pensions? Who's paying for the pensions of the well trained union employees who have the tremendous responsibility of making sure the Jack Daniels gets rung up properly through the scanner? The market should dictate the salaries and benefits of employees, not which union donates the most money to the democratic party. Union employees aren't middle class anymore. They're lazy slouches. When you make substantially more then the MEDIAN income in this country, how can you dare call yourself middle class? My taxes shouldn't have to fund a fat state issued pensions for someone to work a register, or for any of the other non-essential government jobs created by unions.
Mark Redfox June 23, 2012 at 12:40 am
Tommy it sounds like your are jealous because you make minium wage and when you retire your gonna have to rely on social security alone. The middle class is making less and less these days because of the decline of unions. Unions make it possible for a society to make a fare wage. Can a person support an average sized family on minimum wage, I think not.
Tommy June 23, 2012 at 02:25 pm
Try again Mark. I actually work for a union company, as a real employee, a manager. I started out as a union-bot like you though, then I grew up and my brain matured. Much like you, the union-bots who work for my company whine and cry about how they just want a "fair wage", while they make $34/hour, have free benefits and a pension. Much how they are overpaid because they make 3 times the industry average to do their work, you are probably equally overpaid to do something completely simple and trivial like pound nails. Did you ever notice that all of you union-bots do work that a chimp could be taught to do? So not are you grossly overpaid, your skills are irrelevant. Newsflash hot shot, I make ALOT more than the union-bots who work for my company. Unions are the epitome of all that is wrong in liberal, communistic society. They teach to forgo hard work, because collective, or community, or COMMunistic power of their group is stronger than one individual. Well you know what, that's great in your cute little union utopia, but it doesn't work. Union workers are lazy, spoiled, over-privileged, ungrateful, and just plain out of touch. This is evident by your ridiculous posts about why people do a job that can be handled by someone who works at Walmart, should get a full pension. Oh, and by the way, Social Security, another great program created by irrational liberals like you, won't be around when I retire. Another great democratic liberal idea which FAILS!
Tommy June 23, 2012 at 02:28 pm
So tell me again how making $34/hour is "middle class"? What's the median income in United States? Oh, that's right, $26,364. No one wants to hear your whining about what is fair. No one wants to hear about why we should all pay more in taxes so that the glorified Walmart employee who works at the Liquor store can retire at 50 with their pension. Sorry Mark, you can keep your union, and your mediocrity. I'll keep my hard work, work ethic, and real job skills.

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